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Matthew Kirtley's avatar

>The error that we are led towards by making Christianity a central part of our political movement’s identity — and therefore, our vision for a national identity — is assigning an element of universality to the citizenry of the nation.

I think you've hit nail on head. I think the central political objective of the British right should be to reject the logic of universalism wholesale.

As cliche as it is to quote De Maistre, I always have enjoyed this one (from Considerations on France):

“Now, there is no such thing as ‘man’ in this world. In my life I have seen Frenchmen, Italians, Russians, and so on. I even know, thanks to Montesquieu, that one can be Persian. But as for man, I declare I’ve never encountered him.”

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My teen went through a phase of wanting a cross necklace and making the sign of the cross and saying "god bless" I'm pretty sure he was influenced mostly by his Syrian friend who makes a point of wearing a large cross on the outside of his shirt, but I have seen a surge in pro Christian TikToks.

The thing I noticed with his peers was a fad-like, superficial interest in Christianity (and Islam). Donning cross necklaces, putting cross in bio temporarily etc. But that's as far as it went. And it was more trendy last year and at the beginning of the year than it is now, and it's died down. Even become a bit cringe.

Through my son I'm familiar with a slightly older local lad (white, English) who is a bit of a TikTok personality who has become a Muslim but in a similarly surface level way e.g. saying "Inshallah" a lot and comparing non religious girls to good virgin girls (he is adamant he's getting a virgin Muslim girl though I doubt any with a brain will let their daughter near him) and performatively praying outside because it's time to pray now. He comes across as a lost working class soul, has a lot of ghetto mannerisms like walking with a hand down his trousers and makes those gang signs with his hands. My son thinks he's cool for now. For anyone who hasn't got teens or pre-teens they all say "Wallahi" atm, I nearly go insane from the amount of "wallahi bruv" I hear. But I also go insane from hearing about "big batty bunda" and rapping about drug dealing and stabbing people.

The Christian revival feels a little forced like a band-aid solution to the problems caused by mass migration and how it's changing us.

I'm increasingly suspicious when media personalities say Islam is the primary problem. It is a huge problem but to me it isn't the main one. The odd emergence of loads of Christians in media who have gone cuckoo with American style proclamations of Christ is King has, if anything, put me off Christianity. Are they all like this? It irritates me so intensely that I almost want to defend Muslims. They seem to think it's better to be ethnically mixed with African Christians than to protect an English non Christian demographic. If that's the case then the right needs to reconsider its alliances.

When I see things online like brown/black Christians or sikh "Christian allies" on the right take the piss out of English who are skeptical of a Christian revival or who are Muslim converts. It feels like someone is encroaching on my people and I really don't like it, even if I generally agree with the Christian. Again, it drives me away from Christianity. As do all of the "Thank God for Immigrants" posters.

My ultimate concern is that our homeland is being given away to foreigners and if we are atheist, Christian, Buddhist, pagan or whatever is secondary to that concern. But apparently not everyone feels that way and we must return to Christ the King in a multiracial orgy? It all feels very American.

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