Interesting and amusing. You don't mention the eugenics item that was important to the early Fabians. I recall that Tory Sir Keith Joseph as the only modern British politician who advocated it. Naturally, today it would arouse screams of Nazi Germany and the like but it seems to me a policy backed by a certain rationality...
Thank you for a most informative essay which has re-aligned my shallow take of the Fabian Society. However, one constant and common thread runs through it all: the desire to destroy the traits - good and bad - that make us human and to replace it with a confected ideal which only the well-educated are able to believe such a fallacy.
The problem with a lot of conspiracies advocated on the Right is that they seek to archaise the immediate enemy. It isn't something that is limited to those who have "peasant conspiracies", however, as it is very common among supposed intellectuals. You have Cofnas who tries to tie Woke to any form of egalitarianism, the TradCaths who treat it as a natural outgrowth of the Enlightenment or the Protestant Reformation, and then various neo-pagans who act as if it is an inherent part of Christianity. The problem with these conspiracies is that, whilst they may motivate some people to action, they largely encourage inaction by making Woke seem to be the predetermined outcome of Western civilization rather than a post-War aberration. Rather than viewing Woke as something that both built upon pre-existing trends whilst also acting as a rupture with the past in the post-War era, these conspiracies make it all seem inevitable and thus makes the fight seem futile.
The other problem with the Fabian conspiracy is that there are more interesting potential conspiracies involving the Labour Party that are worth exploring further. One contributor at J'Accuse is looking into the ties between the National Committee for Civil Liberties, whose members have included high-ranking Labour politicians, and the Paedophile Information Exchange. The intimate tie between the human rights lobby, who created the web of laws that makes deporting foreign sexual predators seemingly nigh impossible, with paedophile advocacy groups is surely more explosive and interesting than anything some ancient bunch of socialist eugenicists were involved with. Similarly, the link between Woke King Chuck and Jimmy Savile or the growing evidence around his favourite uncle Lord Mountbatten are far more interesting? Or what about the ties between various Islamic groups and Iran? The Islamic Human Rights Committee, who organise lots of pro-Palestine protests, support crackdowns on "Islamophobic" speech, and try to free various Muslim terrorists, are often accused of having ties to Iran.
They were the Extropians of the late XiX century!
Interesting and amusing. You don't mention the eugenics item that was important to the early Fabians. I recall that Tory Sir Keith Joseph as the only modern British politician who advocated it. Naturally, today it would arouse screams of Nazi Germany and the like but it seems to me a policy backed by a certain rationality...
Correction: you mentioned it initially but then dropped anycreference to it.😉
Thank you for a most informative essay which has re-aligned my shallow take of the Fabian Society. However, one constant and common thread runs through it all: the desire to destroy the traits - good and bad - that make us human and to replace it with a confected ideal which only the well-educated are able to believe such a fallacy.
Interesting. I would like to know the current philosophy There are always metamorphoses to these groups.
The cliques, clans, groups concept have a 'superiority' perspective.
Very interesting. Maybe one suggestion: prompt your AI to verify the accuracy of the Milner-Fabian Conspiracy and see what it says.
Just saw someone link this on X, which outlines the Fabian Society's immigration policy at the end of the war: https://www.heritageanddestiny.com/the-southport-murders-and-the-eugenics-of-immigration/
The problem with a lot of conspiracies advocated on the Right is that they seek to archaise the immediate enemy. It isn't something that is limited to those who have "peasant conspiracies", however, as it is very common among supposed intellectuals. You have Cofnas who tries to tie Woke to any form of egalitarianism, the TradCaths who treat it as a natural outgrowth of the Enlightenment or the Protestant Reformation, and then various neo-pagans who act as if it is an inherent part of Christianity. The problem with these conspiracies is that, whilst they may motivate some people to action, they largely encourage inaction by making Woke seem to be the predetermined outcome of Western civilization rather than a post-War aberration. Rather than viewing Woke as something that both built upon pre-existing trends whilst also acting as a rupture with the past in the post-War era, these conspiracies make it all seem inevitable and thus makes the fight seem futile.
The other problem with the Fabian conspiracy is that there are more interesting potential conspiracies involving the Labour Party that are worth exploring further. One contributor at J'Accuse is looking into the ties between the National Committee for Civil Liberties, whose members have included high-ranking Labour politicians, and the Paedophile Information Exchange. The intimate tie between the human rights lobby, who created the web of laws that makes deporting foreign sexual predators seemingly nigh impossible, with paedophile advocacy groups is surely more explosive and interesting than anything some ancient bunch of socialist eugenicists were involved with. Similarly, the link between Woke King Chuck and Jimmy Savile or the growing evidence around his favourite uncle Lord Mountbatten are far more interesting? Or what about the ties between various Islamic groups and Iran? The Islamic Human Rights Committee, who organise lots of pro-Palestine protests, support crackdowns on "Islamophobic" speech, and try to free various Muslim terrorists, are often accused of having ties to Iran.
It's basically a gay club for misanthropes