Canada is completely overrun. Over the past four months, *400,000* "permanent residents", i.e. Freshies, have immigrated to Canada, irrespective of so-called "regular immigration", refugees, over-stayed visa holders, and "irregular" border crossers. And so the equivalent of a city the size of Halifax or London (Ontario) are arriving *every four months*. The result of which is an epidemic of 10-12 of these "students" (attending dodgy diploma mill colleges) living in slum houses in every municipality coast-to-coast. They take over every job that used to be filled by young people starting out, or older people supplementing their pensions: shop clerks, petrol station attendants, coffee shop and cafe servers, and many others. It's now common to go to rural towns where *every single* staff is now a sullen, twenty-something Indian male who can't speak English and where Indians have purchased all the local shops and restaurants and only hire their own under dodgy "labour market" schemes that drive down wages and ensure natural-born Canadians can't get their foot into the labour market.
The observation of their incompetence is spot-on: they now have the reputation of not being able to fulfill even simple orders of bagels and sandwiches in any restaurant or cafe they work at The problem is many of those franchises are now owned by Indians themselves.
Their sheer number have distorted labour market, rental, and real-estate prices from coast to coast, which has caused skyrocketing homelessness amongst the native-born down and outs; tent camps are common now in the parks of even smaller towns. Crime is skyrocketing: from auto and home thefts to human trafficking (think Rochdale grooming gangs) to even these "students" being hired to assassinate Indian politicians on Canadian soil. The Liberal party under Trudeau has lost its mind, this country is being destroyed literally by the month, and short of a Milei-Wilders-Bukele-type figure to emerge, the future of this country is of steady demographic replacement and cultural and economic ruination. As Mark Steyn says, the future belongs to those who show up.
It's interesting, because in the late 90s and 2000s I remember Indians and Indian culture being very present in the media and even having a bit of a cool factor. For example in music (Brimful of Asha, Panjabi MC and other Bhangra inspired dance music, M.I.A etc.), movies (Slumdog Millionaire and Bend It Like Beckham), fashion (boho/festival fashion and bindis), men like Jay Sean being considered sex symbols etc.
It's definitely died down in recent years though and I'm not too sure if this is the reason why
It also helped that the first lot that arrived had pretty daughters who went on to be GPs and married out. They were very relaxed about their Hinduism and in my experience cheerfully took up British middle-class culture i.e. marrying in church. If you ask many of them even today about e.g. Modi they don't care, don't know or both.
The big, bold, hyperbolic claim "no country in the world has suffered a more severe loss of reputation than India" is not supported or justified in this hate on Indians article. I have heard all this prejudice, mockery, resentment, and ignorance many times before, and it's getting tiresome. Start directing your displeasure instead at the elites who have destroyed the country and the insouciant, unquestioning native population who did little to stop mass immigration from occurring.
We already have plenty of articles that direct our displeasure towards ‘elites’. For example, ‘Deliveroo Britain’ and ‘The Social Housing Phenomenon’. You may wish to read these.
'I have heard all this prejudice, mockery, resentment, and ignorance many times before'
Couldn't this just signify a growing awareness of a genuine problem? Are you denying that its a genuine problem, or do you want newer and hotter takes on *other* real problems? What do you mean?
1. We do direct our displease at the elites who facilitate this destruction of our countries
2. The problem with mass immigration IS the Indians themselves. If Indians weren’t as incompetent, insular, objectionable, creepy, smelly, and just all around offensive to the sensible, we wouldn’t react so strongly against them. The fact that THEY ARE as terrible as they are is why our resentment is so palpable and justified.
Would this be the insouciant population that voted for Brexit and organised working-class street movements against immigration (EDL) only to have both vigorously suppressed?
"the insouciant, unquestioning native population who did little to stop mass immigration from occurring."
But we did all we could. Time after time - four times, in the UK - we elected governments that promised to reduce immigration. And then they deliberately increased it. What more could we have legally done?
An anecdote from the UK in response to your observation that exposure to our new compatriots is pushing Zoomers rightward:
A 20-something friend of mine is (or at least was) very fond of attending nightclubs with her friends. When I first met her a few years ago, she was a paragon of leftist values on questions like race and sexuality. However, since then, every few weeks, I have received an appallingly lit Snapchat video or series thereof, of her and her friends shuffling distractedly, either staring into space or glancing nervously at each other, as behind them has formed a group of very excited young Indian men, leering expectantly at the young ladies and bursting into ecstatic dance every time they sense they are being recorded (they seem to interpret this as positive attention).
Apparently, very rarely do they actually say anything to her - they just appear out of nowhere in large groups, glare, furtively draw closer and closer, and before they know it, fleshy hands are being passed along their backs and waists: each time only for a split second, and if they turn around to berate them, the culprit will disappear like a beige phantasm, but continually. The group will remain there for as long as the girls do, and follow them around if they remain in the same club for any length of time. Bouncers do nothing.
She has had separate experiences, especially when on trips to larger cities like London and Manchester, with ‘Turks’ (read: Alevi Kurds), Arabs, and the African diaspora, but the Indians are now ubiquitous and inescapable. She has gone from consciously interacting with ethnic minorities, at least in part to prove her egalitarian credentials, to actively avoiding and constantly expressing her disgust towards Indian men in particular. I mean, this girl feels genuine hatred for them, she will frequently begin grinding her teeth and bunching her fists when the subject is broached.
I strongly suspect that she is not alone, and that many if not most Gen Z women have similar stories to tell, and will have experienced a similar change in attitude.
Not at all, a comfortable majority of people who identify themselves as Turkish in the UK are descendants of or were themselves of Turkish Cypriot refugees from the civil war there in the 70’s. Mainland Turks only really emigrate in large numbers to Germany and the United States.
The Kurds are another matter altogether. Indeed, in a bizarre act of ethnographic ignorance on the part of Haringey Council, they have been classed as non-white while ethnic Turks have been classed as white (anybody who has any acquaintance with the region whatsoever will find this ludicrous).
Some Kurdish tribes have enjoyed a traditional way of life revolving around banditry for several millennia now (they are mentioned as the Kardouchoi in the Anabasis, in which they attack the Ten Thousand). Mass resettlement and Kurdicisation of various other peoples in the region (Circassian refugees, Assyrians, Armenians of course, various others) and the suppression of several revolts in the early 20th Century largely destroyed the traditional tribal structure, so the only group that retained strict homogeneity and clan bonds were the Alevis, who were religiously heterodox and therefore segregated. This (plainly leftist, but still informative) article details the history of this phenomenon in the 20th Century: https://merip.org/1996/09/kurds-turks-and-the-alevi-revival-in-turkey/
The nub of it is that Alevi Kurds ended up forming a separate and insular ethnic bloc, even independently from other Kurds, politically organised through the PKK, and which drawing on their bandit roots, later went on to produce one of the few ethnic mafias in Europe to truly rival the Albanians for ubiquity and influence. When Mr Sunak talks about people smugglers and criminal gangs bringing people here on small boats, he is referring in the main to Alevi Kurdish gangs like the Tottenham Boys.
99% of these people will have Turkish citizenship and are sometimes opportunistically referred to as Turks, but they are most certainly not, and indeed, have spent more than a century fighting wars to establish that they are not.
I knew some of it, but the intact clannishness of Alevi Kurds is new to me (also I must read The Anabasis). It stands to reason though that their odd religion made them impermeable.
Yes it's absurd to classify kurds as POCs and Turks in general as white. But of course there are no (or very few) pure-blooded Balkanoids or Tatars among the Kurds, and absorbing a few Circassians and Armenian orphans etc. is not the same as 'suffering' the presence of a European population of hundreds of thousands in your midst (there is real prejudice against Balkan 'Turks' in Turkey--quite openly so in the last election there).
Are most of the 'barber's shops' in yookay Alevi Kurd operations then? Believe it or not there are a few around Bucharest these daze (I don't know if they are Alevis but they are most certainly Kurds), in addition to Alawite Turks (Arabs really) running restaurants.
I will say that my impression is that they are more annoying than they are dangerous. I’ve heard of her and other women being aggressively and painfully groped in nightclubs before (digits inserted into orifices and things of this description), but the most the Indians seem to be capable of is a very quick grab of a buttock followed by scurrying away faster than the woman can turn around, presumably to avoid being carried out of the club by a bouncer.
The effect, though - and I believe this to be the reason why she singles out Indians in particular for her wrath - is that you now just can’t go out to a club in a major city as a woman without experiencing this nuisance behaviour, and so it doesn’t just spoil one evening, it’s almost every night they go out. They’re also *very* determined; as I said, they will latch on to one group of girls, and follow them around for literally the entire night, appearing as though summoned from the ether whenever and wherever the group moves unless they leave the club altogether. Even if the feelings evoked by their behaviour never rise above discomfort and disgust, it still seriously harms any woman’s experience of nightlife.
This notion has been floating around the DR for some time though - that women would stop being colour blind only when their egalitarianism began to impinge even on their ability to distract themselves, in much the same way that Gamergate did for a generation of young men online.
Another excellent example of this is the Tiktok UK beast scandal. To summarise, a man - one man, as far as we can tell - is prowling around in Northern city centres on Saturday evenings with an HD camera, filming the local hairdressers, HR professionals and wannabe influencers in their going out clothes, and posting it on Tiktok under apparently innocuous titles like “Manchester Nightlife”.
The true purpose of these videos can be seen, however, in the comments, which are largely written in Arabic, Hindi, and certain other major languages of the Global South. British women, who have spent many decades living out the time honoured tradition of going out on a chilly November evening in a miniskirt and 3 pounds of makeup to drink until they lose consciousness have been forced to suddenly realise that they are not only receiving attention from the Deanos at their nightclub of choice, but a much larger and much more sinister community of admirers beyond the briny foam with dubious intentions https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68826423.amp
I’ve recently read about the struggles nightclubs have been having in the UK and Canada. While a crummy economy and high alcohol taxes are surely a major factor, I suspect this sort of behaviour is another problem.
I recently came across a post by a young Canadian woman plaintively asking where all the Canadian dudes are. You also see posts by Canadians concerned whether the educational program they are signing up for are genuine and whether they’ll be around Canadian students.
So the problem isn’t simply major crime - it’s also having pretty much every daily experience (school, work, hospitals, nightlife) degraded. Boomers are mostly insulated from these effects. Recently Anglosphere governments have cranked immigration to 11 and the effects are becoming undeniable.
'I believe this to be the reason why she singles out Indians in particular for her wrath'
Also the fact that they are less attractive and slimier than Kurds or Arabs makes women less inclined to put up with their outrages, even if they're not as intrusive?
Canada is completely overrun. Over the past four months, *400,000* "permanent residents", i.e. Freshies, have immigrated to Canada, irrespective of so-called "regular immigration", refugees, over-stayed visa holders, and "irregular" border crossers. And so the equivalent of a city the size of Halifax or London (Ontario) are arriving *every four months*. The result of which is an epidemic of 10-12 of these "students" (attending dodgy diploma mill colleges) living in slum houses in every municipality coast-to-coast. They take over every job that used to be filled by young people starting out, or older people supplementing their pensions: shop clerks, petrol station attendants, coffee shop and cafe servers, and many others. It's now common to go to rural towns where *every single* staff is now a sullen, twenty-something Indian male who can't speak English and where Indians have purchased all the local shops and restaurants and only hire their own under dodgy "labour market" schemes that drive down wages and ensure natural-born Canadians can't get their foot into the labour market.
The observation of their incompetence is spot-on: they now have the reputation of not being able to fulfill even simple orders of bagels and sandwiches in any restaurant or cafe they work at The problem is many of those franchises are now owned by Indians themselves.
Their sheer number have distorted labour market, rental, and real-estate prices from coast to coast, which has caused skyrocketing homelessness amongst the native-born down and outs; tent camps are common now in the parks of even smaller towns. Crime is skyrocketing: from auto and home thefts to human trafficking (think Rochdale grooming gangs) to even these "students" being hired to assassinate Indian politicians on Canadian soil. The Liberal party under Trudeau has lost its mind, this country is being destroyed literally by the month, and short of a Milei-Wilders-Bukele-type figure to emerge, the future of this country is of steady demographic replacement and cultural and economic ruination. As Mark Steyn says, the future belongs to those who show up.
It's basically the same story in Australia, New Zealand--even in Romania it begins...
It's interesting, because in the late 90s and 2000s I remember Indians and Indian culture being very present in the media and even having a bit of a cool factor. For example in music (Brimful of Asha, Panjabi MC and other Bhangra inspired dance music, M.I.A etc.), movies (Slumdog Millionaire and Bend It Like Beckham), fashion (boho/festival fashion and bindis), men like Jay Sean being considered sex symbols etc.
It's definitely died down in recent years though and I'm not too sure if this is the reason why
It also helped that the first lot that arrived had pretty daughters who went on to be GPs and married out. They were very relaxed about their Hinduism and in my experience cheerfully took up British middle-class culture i.e. marrying in church. If you ask many of them even today about e.g. Modi they don't care, don't know or both.
The big, bold, hyperbolic claim "no country in the world has suffered a more severe loss of reputation than India" is not supported or justified in this hate on Indians article. I have heard all this prejudice, mockery, resentment, and ignorance many times before, and it's getting tiresome. Start directing your displeasure instead at the elites who have destroyed the country and the insouciant, unquestioning native population who did little to stop mass immigration from occurring.
We already have plenty of articles that direct our displeasure towards ‘elites’. For example, ‘Deliveroo Britain’ and ‘The Social Housing Phenomenon’. You may wish to read these.
'I have heard all this prejudice, mockery, resentment, and ignorance many times before'
Couldn't this just signify a growing awareness of a genuine problem? Are you denying that its a genuine problem, or do you want newer and hotter takes on *other* real problems? What do you mean?
You have to go back, "David Green."
1. We do direct our displease at the elites who facilitate this destruction of our countries
2. The problem with mass immigration IS the Indians themselves. If Indians weren’t as incompetent, insular, objectionable, creepy, smelly, and just all around offensive to the sensible, we wouldn’t react so strongly against them. The fact that THEY ARE as terrible as they are is why our resentment is so palpable and justified.
Would this be the insouciant population that voted for Brexit and organised working-class street movements against immigration (EDL) only to have both vigorously suppressed?
"the insouciant, unquestioning native population who did little to stop mass immigration from occurring."
But we did all we could. Time after time - four times, in the UK - we elected governments that promised to reduce immigration. And then they deliberately increased it. What more could we have legally done?
"British of Indian descent" = Indian
"Native Anglo-Celtic" = actual British
always
> Or while your average Englishman or Slav is smashing through half a pack of cigarettes every hour to cope with a rammed, laughably understaffed pub
Being this stressed in your minimum wage job over losing your boss money is so laughably cucked. I'm with the Indians on this one
An anecdote from the UK in response to your observation that exposure to our new compatriots is pushing Zoomers rightward:
A 20-something friend of mine is (or at least was) very fond of attending nightclubs with her friends. When I first met her a few years ago, she was a paragon of leftist values on questions like race and sexuality. However, since then, every few weeks, I have received an appallingly lit Snapchat video or series thereof, of her and her friends shuffling distractedly, either staring into space or glancing nervously at each other, as behind them has formed a group of very excited young Indian men, leering expectantly at the young ladies and bursting into ecstatic dance every time they sense they are being recorded (they seem to interpret this as positive attention).
Apparently, very rarely do they actually say anything to her - they just appear out of nowhere in large groups, glare, furtively draw closer and closer, and before they know it, fleshy hands are being passed along their backs and waists: each time only for a split second, and if they turn around to berate them, the culprit will disappear like a beige phantasm, but continually. The group will remain there for as long as the girls do, and follow them around if they remain in the same club for any length of time. Bouncers do nothing.
She has had separate experiences, especially when on trips to larger cities like London and Manchester, with ‘Turks’ (read: Alevi Kurds), Arabs, and the African diaspora, but the Indians are now ubiquitous and inescapable. She has gone from consciously interacting with ethnic minorities, at least in part to prove her egalitarian credentials, to actively avoiding and constantly expressing her disgust towards Indian men in particular. I mean, this girl feels genuine hatred for them, she will frequently begin grinding her teeth and bunching her fists when the subject is broached.
I strongly suspect that she is not alone, and that many if not most Gen Z women have similar stories to tell, and will have experienced a similar change in attitude.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the two sexes reconcile as all-of-a-sudden the girl bosses need men to protect them after all?
Alevi Kurds? Is that the community to which most immigrants from Turkey to 'our communities' in the yookay belong?
And here was me thinking the Alevis were among the better ones...
Not at all, a comfortable majority of people who identify themselves as Turkish in the UK are descendants of or were themselves of Turkish Cypriot refugees from the civil war there in the 70’s. Mainland Turks only really emigrate in large numbers to Germany and the United States.
The Kurds are another matter altogether. Indeed, in a bizarre act of ethnographic ignorance on the part of Haringey Council, they have been classed as non-white while ethnic Turks have been classed as white (anybody who has any acquaintance with the region whatsoever will find this ludicrous).
Some Kurdish tribes have enjoyed a traditional way of life revolving around banditry for several millennia now (they are mentioned as the Kardouchoi in the Anabasis, in which they attack the Ten Thousand). Mass resettlement and Kurdicisation of various other peoples in the region (Circassian refugees, Assyrians, Armenians of course, various others) and the suppression of several revolts in the early 20th Century largely destroyed the traditional tribal structure, so the only group that retained strict homogeneity and clan bonds were the Alevis, who were religiously heterodox and therefore segregated. This (plainly leftist, but still informative) article details the history of this phenomenon in the 20th Century: https://merip.org/1996/09/kurds-turks-and-the-alevi-revival-in-turkey/
The nub of it is that Alevi Kurds ended up forming a separate and insular ethnic bloc, even independently from other Kurds, politically organised through the PKK, and which drawing on their bandit roots, later went on to produce one of the few ethnic mafias in Europe to truly rival the Albanians for ubiquity and influence. When Mr Sunak talks about people smugglers and criminal gangs bringing people here on small boats, he is referring in the main to Alevi Kurdish gangs like the Tottenham Boys.
99% of these people will have Turkish citizenship and are sometimes opportunistically referred to as Turks, but they are most certainly not, and indeed, have spent more than a century fighting wars to establish that they are not.
Extremely interesting; thanks for link to article
I knew some of it, but the intact clannishness of Alevi Kurds is new to me (also I must read The Anabasis). It stands to reason though that their odd religion made them impermeable.
Yes it's absurd to classify kurds as POCs and Turks in general as white. But of course there are no (or very few) pure-blooded Balkanoids or Tatars among the Kurds, and absorbing a few Circassians and Armenian orphans etc. is not the same as 'suffering' the presence of a European population of hundreds of thousands in your midst (there is real prejudice against Balkan 'Turks' in Turkey--quite openly so in the last election there).
Are most of the 'barber's shops' in yookay Alevi Kurd operations then? Believe it or not there are a few around Bucharest these daze (I don't know if they are Alevis but they are most certainly Kurds), in addition to Alawite Turks (Arabs really) running restaurants.
I will say that my impression is that they are more annoying than they are dangerous. I’ve heard of her and other women being aggressively and painfully groped in nightclubs before (digits inserted into orifices and things of this description), but the most the Indians seem to be capable of is a very quick grab of a buttock followed by scurrying away faster than the woman can turn around, presumably to avoid being carried out of the club by a bouncer.
The effect, though - and I believe this to be the reason why she singles out Indians in particular for her wrath - is that you now just can’t go out to a club in a major city as a woman without experiencing this nuisance behaviour, and so it doesn’t just spoil one evening, it’s almost every night they go out. They’re also *very* determined; as I said, they will latch on to one group of girls, and follow them around for literally the entire night, appearing as though summoned from the ether whenever and wherever the group moves unless they leave the club altogether. Even if the feelings evoked by their behaviour never rise above discomfort and disgust, it still seriously harms any woman’s experience of nightlife.
This notion has been floating around the DR for some time though - that women would stop being colour blind only when their egalitarianism began to impinge even on their ability to distract themselves, in much the same way that Gamergate did for a generation of young men online.
Another excellent example of this is the Tiktok UK beast scandal. To summarise, a man - one man, as far as we can tell - is prowling around in Northern city centres on Saturday evenings with an HD camera, filming the local hairdressers, HR professionals and wannabe influencers in their going out clothes, and posting it on Tiktok under apparently innocuous titles like “Manchester Nightlife”.
The true purpose of these videos can be seen, however, in the comments, which are largely written in Arabic, Hindi, and certain other major languages of the Global South. British women, who have spent many decades living out the time honoured tradition of going out on a chilly November evening in a miniskirt and 3 pounds of makeup to drink until they lose consciousness have been forced to suddenly realise that they are not only receiving attention from the Deanos at their nightclub of choice, but a much larger and much more sinister community of admirers beyond the briny foam with dubious intentions https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68826423.amp
I’ve recently read about the struggles nightclubs have been having in the UK and Canada. While a crummy economy and high alcohol taxes are surely a major factor, I suspect this sort of behaviour is another problem.
I recently came across a post by a young Canadian woman plaintively asking where all the Canadian dudes are. You also see posts by Canadians concerned whether the educational program they are signing up for are genuine and whether they’ll be around Canadian students.
So the problem isn’t simply major crime - it’s also having pretty much every daily experience (school, work, hospitals, nightlife) degraded. Boomers are mostly insulated from these effects. Recently Anglosphere governments have cranked immigration to 11 and the effects are becoming undeniable.
I wouldn't say that's "irritating" I'd say it's sexual assault.
'I believe this to be the reason why she singles out Indians in particular for her wrath'
Also the fact that they are less attractive and slimier than Kurds or Arabs makes women less inclined to put up with their outrages, even if they're not as intrusive?