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«there is a genuine sense that transatlantic relations are and should remain rooted in a shared cultural and ethnic heritage which aligns mutual interests in a way which is not purely mercenary.»

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/11/republished-the-nonsense-of-the-special-relationship-.html

“Speaking at a splendid Buckingham Palace dinner, the President of the United States told the assembled great and good:

‘You must not speak of us who come over here as cousins, still less as brothers; we are neither. Neither must you think of us as Anglo-Saxons, for that term can no longer be rightly applied to the people of the US. Nor must too much importance in this connection be attached to the fact that English is our common language… no, there are only two things which can establish and maintain closer relations between your country and mine: they are community of ideals and interests.’»

That "ideals" seems perfunctory to me...

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«We must address our demographic issues and prevent our own replacement.»

Those "our"s are quite too generic:

* Conservativism is not about conserving identities and values in general, that is just public relations: what is most conservative is higher incomes (from ownership of properties and businesses) and lower costs (of labor), that is conserving (and boosting) the wealth and power of those who already have them

* Mass immigration has achieved very significant increases in incomes (from property and business) and noticeable reductions in costs (of labor) during the last 4 decas in which only thatcherite conservative (whether with New Labour or Conservative majorities) governments have been in power.

* During the Great Plague there was a period of population contraction that resulted in large increases in wages and a crash in the value and income from properties and businesses; the middle and upper classes of both UK and EU do not want anything like that to happen to them.

* The middle and upper classes of the UK and of the EU (to a lesser extent) generally do not regard their servants (the working class and the under class) as "our" people but just as fungible labor "bulk headcount") and do not care about their skin color, ethnicity, religion; for example the largest wave of immigration to the UK up to 2020 has been 8 million cheap white christian east europeans; many UK expats have been perfectly comfortable earlier in India or Nigeria or more recently in Dubai to be served by large numbers of cheap people-of-global-majority; as long as they were cheap the rest matters a lot less.

* I guess that in the UK few conservative middle class or upper class people would be bothered by a situation like that in Kuwait and other places where 60-80% of the residents were cheap immigrant servants, but only as long as long as they had little or no civil rights and no political rights, as in Dubai or Kuwait etc.

Regardless the demographic question will reverse itself: women have children either because of reproductive instinct or because of deliberate calculation (usually related to pensions) and currently those with no reproductive instinct have deliberated to make themselves extinct so eventually there will be a large natality surge as only women with a strong (and inheritable) reproductive instinct will be left and they will have daughters and grand-daughters with a strong reproductive instinct too.

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