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Bobby Rowlands's avatar

I found the article very illuminating so thank you.

EsotericPutlerism's avatar

Interesting article. I think, more than anything, we're now starting to see what has already appeared in the US and that is the degeneration of attitudes amongst later generation immigrants even those typically assumed to be "the good ones" (see: US-Korean/Chinese/Japanese).

There are a variety of theories for this but I think the simplest is that, subconsciously, they simply know they don't belong here. Wealth and some status can cover that up but, as Britain's standard of living falls for everyone, it'll only become more and more exposed.

When I went to school there was a large contingent of Kashmiris/Punjabis; Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs. All of them looked forward to their long summer holiday back in the Punjab/Kashmir. A friend, a Sikh, opined to me once that coming back to Britain was "always depressing". They were all very much middle-class too.

My friend went on to Cambridge and became a doctor. Every bit an exemplar of immigration done right yet I always remember that conversation we had as teenagers. Opinions like that don't die easily.

SuzukiSo99's avatar

Life is hard enough even when you belong here etc.

Steve Fraser's avatar

In group preference is inevitable, intrinsic human behaviour, except for our deluded liberal elite.

Adam Steiger's avatar

Actually, the so-called liberal elite is the most preferential towards their in-group (white caramel latte sipping liberals). They live in white ghettos and invite other white liberals for dinner parties where they castigate the deplorables and the unwashed. They just don't have to bear the downsides of mass immigration in their Gail's Bakery neighbourhoods, whilst making a killing from portfolio managing Bonesaw MBS's petrodollars and engaging in private equity backed deindustrialisation. That burden falls wholly on the white working class.

Ion Rîmaru's avatar

What surprised me about my 25-year-old Punjabi Jatt Sikh friend who was born in Birmingham, is non-religious, and hates muslims, was how calmly he repeated insane historical narratives to me: Churchill is the reason his people are fat because of epigenetics, the British Empire looted trillions from India, the Flight 182 bombing was a false flag operation, and the Holocaust didn't happen (?).

Andrew's avatar

You do not mention the Indianisation of the NHS, yet another stark omission by Streeting on his recent and wholly ineffective stint as Minister of Health.

Akiyama's avatar

"There is recent statistical evidence which shows that since 2020, there have been 27 non-EU young workers hired for every one young British worker that has been hired."

That's not true. The INCREASE in the total number hired over the six year period from January 2020 to December 2025 was 27 times higher among non-EU young workers than among young British workers. The total number of people hired over this period, and the increase in the total number over this period, are two different things.

If in 2025 the total number of young British workers hired had been the same as it had been in 2020 (no increase), then the increase would be zero. Any positive number divided by zero is infinity, but that doesn't mean that if there had been an increase (any positive number) in the number of non-EU young workers hired over the same period, the headline should be "there were an infinite number of non-EU young workers hired"!

The Centre for Social Justice is misunderstanding or misreporting this. It's the total numbers of people hired that is the important context here.

Adam Steiger's avatar

We know who's been trying to indoctrinate the Right with the notion: "Muslim bad, Hindu good, Sikh good" .... hence the Boriswave ... hence the never-ending wars in the Middle East".

Come on people, wake up.

Nicholas Craddy's avatar

I have met many Sikhs in my 70 years of life, and always found them to be a very kind and generous people. I even dated a Sikh girl in the 70’s.

Your article is very thoughtful, and thought provoking, I certainly never knew the Mirpuri connection.

Every day’s a school day.

Adam Steiger's avatar

Strategically kind and generous

Iram Ramzan's avatar

As a "Mirpuri" thank you for this!

Craig Wallace's avatar

As a man thinks so he is. The lack of reference in this article to the differences in religious belief between these groups and between them and their host country is not helpful.

MA's avatar

Another thing worth mentioning, which has largely been forgotten, are the protests against the play Behzti in 2004. For those who don't remember, the play was written by a Sikh woman and featured a scene featuring rape in a Gurdwara. This sparked violent protests in Birmingham on the opening night on 18th October 2004, which then resulted in the play being cancelled. Whilst the protest leaders condemned the violence of those who tried storming the theatre, they still demanded that the play had scenes rewritten so that it was not set in a Gurdwara. It is interesting how these protests were largely forgotten while the protests against Salmon Rushdie in 1988. These protests still had a major affect on writers, forcing a greater deal of self-censorship to avoid violent protestors storming the theatre.

Nicholas's avatar

Henry Nowak was not murdered "utilising a religiously mandated blade, no less". Sikh religious leaders immediately and unanimously clarified that point.

Chandra K Shah Gosrani's avatar

The author is trying to equate criminality amongst all South Asian groups as similar

However, The most reliable recent summary I found is that Muslim prisoners are the largest religious group after Christians and people with no religion, and one recent source puts Muslim prisoners at about 18% of the prison population. The same broad prison statistics do not provide a separate national total for “Pakistani heritage,” because ethnicity and religion are reported in different ways and not cross-tabulated into that specific category.[gov +2]

What the data shows

• Muslim: about 18% of prisoners in the latest cited figures.[gov +1]

• Christian: about 48% in the same broad recent reporting.[gov]

• No religion: about 31%.[gov]

• Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jewish, other, not recorded: each much smaller negligible shares

Adam Steiger's avatar

Here comes the Mody Toady... he'd like Britain to open its gates to Mody Toadies like him so he can offer phull sapport

True European's avatar

Abolish the British commonwealth.

Groleo's avatar

It's very funny that even certified psychos like El Inglés entirely ingested all the "Respect 4 Sikhs" stuff.

Frank Gelli's avatar

Was the Sikh guy who wanted to shoot Queen Elizabeth at Windsor the same as I read about in the media? He had been incited to do so by an AI girlfriend, he told the police. Not the brightest of the bunch! 😉 PS As to the article: what is to be done about it? Many things. In reality, nothing at all.