In about 2006 in my twenties I was in India for about 2 weeks dressed as modestly as possible in a sari or baggy Western mens' clothes. I was sexually assaulted about 5-10 times in front of my male friend who pretended I was his wife. It was so traumatic that I changed my ticket and returned to England. On the streets it was about 90% men and you can understand why. Every time the man acted like it was no big deal or even funny, and it was his right to grope me, like I was a dog he insisted on stroking. Even when my "husband" shouted at them they didn't really react. In 2006 there was not the Internet porn there is now, but I feel that Western programmes showing casual sex probably did the same job, and they seem to do the same to thir own women as they're not out in public. At the time at least, there was no discussion of the fact women are at extreme risk of sexual assault if they travel to these types of countries. They will warn you about pickpockets in the guides but not that you are likely to be repeatedly groped.
I'm sorry to hear of this experience, It stirred a memory of my only trip to India in the late 1980s. I was travelling with another male friend, and we were struck by the number of Indian men who wanted to engage in conversation about sex with Western women. So often we were asked about length of skirts, bikinis, and whether girls "did it". Some of the older guys wanted to talk about politics or history, but it was obvious - even then, when pornography was a rarity - that Westerners conjured up the idea of sexual availability.
Thank you Simon - how interesting to hear other people's experiences from India. My friend and I felt that they certainly had a lot of pent-up sexual urges.
I am sorry you had to endure that. It is one thing that worries me about the "freshies" from India at the moment. I live in a small city have seen gangs of young male "students" in local parks during the last summer congregating together, watching the teenage girls in the play area. The blase way in which gang rape is treated in Bollywood films makes me fear about Indian grooming gangs as well (the Huddersfield grooming gang photos featured a Sikh fellow).
Thank you, MA! I'm disappointed to hear that Bollywood treats gang rape in a blasé way, I always thought Bollywood films were rather conservative and avoided showing kissing etc so it comes as a surprise that they cover the topic of gang rape.
With Bollywood and rape, I am basing this largely on some articles from India and some other articles that I have read. To quote from one article:
"The picturisation of rape is questionable and downright abhorrent in a disturbingly large number of the 80s and 90s Bollywood films. These films had some disturbing and recurrent tropes.
There was longer than required time duration, lewd and insensitive dialogues.
Additionally, there was unnecessary stripping of women, the glorification of the rapist, and trivialisation of the victim suffering."
If I can find the other articles that I read, then I will share them. Either way, from what I have read, there was a degree to which gang rape was vaguely romanticised or seen as just a part of life in Bollywood films.
Thank you MA for sharing such an eye-opening article. I would add that there seems to be a hell of a lot more rape on Western TV as well compared to TV 20 years ago.
A good piece. The point about the lack of words for 'rape' in various African languages is also useful in trying to stop both black African immigration and in ending foreign aid (Trump deserves a lot of praise for ending US foreign aid to the illegitimate government of South Africa, a hostile foreign kleptocracy that persecutes white people). Similarly, there is the question of whether foreign aid etc can be used as a weapon to try and force Pakistan to take back the diaspora. I know British foreign aid to Pakistan is £13 billion a year whilst the nominal GDP of Pakistan is £374 billion, so I am not sure if it would have an effect in of itself. But maybe there can be co-ordination between a future right wing government in the UK and a future MAGA government in the US (assuming Vance succeeds Trump and wins the election in 2028)? One can dream... One can dream...
If that is so, it is quite interesting. Would Pakistan be willing to take back whole communities though? I know a number of Pakistanis in the UK also have property back in their homeland, so maybe whole communities that were complicit could be repatriated? Do you have any links to this?
Nearly everyone gets naturalised as soon as they can so no, there is no way you can force British citizens to remigrate (or simply migrate, if British-born) to their country (or parents' country) of origin.
A scathing article but correct in its prognosis. Any optimistic future for Britain ends immediately when you consider the scale of demographic black holes like Birmingham, Bradford or Luton.
At best you ghettoise them completely. Its inhabitants subsiding purely on state largesse (like Detroit or Baltimore), but contained and heavily policed. At worst we continue as we are, completely ignoring that nothing productive will ever come out of this population except abject misery.
Even more depressing than the bestial gangs are the feeble reaction of most British to these outrages. I sent this article to several male contemporaries (affluent ‘conservative’ gen x) and was staggered by too many of the responses…..the ‘don’t look back in anger’ type of crap! If you are not angry, furious, you are complicit. The British need to understand this.
But the Thatcher government does have a lot to answer for as in 1985 Ray Honeyford a Bradford headmaster warned about classrooms becoming unmanageable when they were majority Muslim. And in 1989 when Salman Rushdies Satanic Verses drew down a fatwa from Ayatollah Khomeini and subsequent protests from Bradford muslims the Tories were spooked and the suspicions must be that they avoided investigating criminality of all types committed by Muslims.
While the McPherson report made any 'institutional racism' accusations accepted by the population .
...And living in London in majority Muslim areas, the women in my block would frequently look at me in absolute disgust when I said hello, again I would necessarily be dressed modestly for a cold climate and usually going to work in an office.
Something the last decade has taught me is that there's an acceptable racism from non-white women towards white women that appears to stem from two main frustrations: anger at white women dating non white men, or frustration over a perceived lack of attraction from white men.
White women are reproductive shape-shifters. They can produce babies that look like any ethnicity, so other women have to up their partner vigilance in response to the biothreat
The sexual interest of Muslim in white women is well attested to across many centuries of conflict. You blow them out of the water sexually in competition for their men.
I grew up in South Africa, I can attest that rape is extremely common amongst the native population and not considered wrong. It's the culture. From the male point of view.
There's currently a video circulating of a South Asian Muslim woman in hijab in the UK describing how men from her community sexually harass her when she goes to buy halal meat! Her modesty is not a deterrent, at all. This is a woman has average looks and appears about 40. The way she explains it sounds like an abnormal level of sexual harassment. When does it end? No, we will not accept that rape victims asked for it. No, we will not accept that the solution is to wear a face veil. There are plenty of girls on tiktok who say they experience MORE sexual harassment from Muslim men when they wearing niqab.
Regarding race element, they obviously hate us and I'm glad the mask is slipping. I saw a video of a Muslim preacher enthusiastically outlining a strategy to get us to become Muslim—essentially, suggesting invasion of a white couple's homes (he used the names John and Tracy so we know he's talking about white people), kicking the husband to the floor, and getting into bed with the wife. These are the same people who tut at the IDF dressing up in Palestinian lingerie.
A few weeks ago I interacted with a TikTok about goris, and I've seen a few now where a young Pakistani or Bengali man says they want a white GF, often trolling their own ethnic group to make them jealous (e.g., Bengali guy who wants a "clean" Bengali wife says he likes "goris" w/ a lying emoji hidden in the caption, triggering Bengali girls). And the girls comments are so aggressive. They're the sort of things you'd expect from a far-right bloke reacting to a white girl with a black man. One fave comment is "white girls don't wash their bums". Others: 💩 bum, shitty bum, enjoy ur beans & bacon, enjoy ur pork, unclean, dirty gori, end of ethnic beauty, brown boys belong to us, I'm better than that pasty ghost, when they turn wise they realise brown girls are the best of all🥰, who actually actually wants this? Etc.
Imagine a white boy positing that he wants a Pakistani gf and white girls leaving comments like "curry", "hairy" "honour killing". It would be seen as appalling behaviour, limited to the worst of our group and rare enough to be met with immediate criticism, probably from a lot of white girls!!
There's blatant racial humiliation at work here. White girls easy targets, dirty slags, but they'll still be taken from you and turned into Muslims.
It's like those tweets about European women converting to Islam at unprecedented rates that they keep posting or the ones about being replaced by a Muslim biomass because white men are so weak they can't get the job done. White women are whores and white men are weak, convert to Islam today to solve this.
Modern English lacks a comprehensive vocabulary for classifying 80-IQ subcontinentals, lumping them in with their fellow countrymen under the category "people."
'Shouting impotently about ‘remigration’ does not cut it.'
I think we need to keep shouting. Remigration seems like the only thing that could really work in the long term. I understand that it's not going to happen in the short term, but it's eventually going to become accepted as a sensible option.
When I taught in England back in the early 00s, some of the most testing kids came from poor white homes. The Muslim kids generally behaved better, at least in class, and had a greater interest in learning. For some reason, there is a deep-seated disinterest in intellectual pursuits with poor whites for e.g. views activities like reading as "gay," or suffer such profound illiteracy that they're humiliated into silence, and don't have the support to improve. A school can only do so much and British schools are increasingly lifeless, inflexible and authoritarian anyway.
It has never been clearer that the likes of Bojo disdain the poor, especially it seems the poor of their own ethnic group, including those who could really flourish with proper care and consideration. They are simply left to rot. In days of yore, they may have sought connection in church; now they are turning to drill and may yet 'revert.' The Scottish and Irish are similar, I've often pondered whether it was a broader class issue across Europe or just us Island folks. The dominance of English language complicates the detection of class nuances elsewhere and I envy them that privacy. We often become oddly defensive about obviously harmful aspects of our way of life, "that's our culture mate f off," as if drunken antics at 16 are something deeply English to be preserved. Bushra's tweet essentially echoes the sentiments once held by Victorian landed gentry towards impoverished prostitutes and chimney sweeps, and still held by our elite today. The introduction of ethnicity is what makes matters truly dangerous. I have not witnessed such concern from the middle class for less fortunate girls, and I strongly suspect ethnicity is the reason. Something dormant has been awakened out of necessity. if Ed Dutton's views are accurate, however, only the worst of the underclass, marked by their criminality and social services, are having enough kids. We're not talking about the likes of Tom Skinner or even Oliver Twist. It is probably fanciful to think we could repatriate every single British Muslim, and so we must set to work improving ourselves
Been looking for this type of comment. As an EU migrant to Britain (now naturalised) it is very evident there is a larger native underclass in this country than in other Western European nations and that family and community ties are weak to non-existent for this cohort.
Britons must ask themselves why there are so many vulnerable or susceptible girls for these gangs to target and ensnare in the first place. A large number live in residential homes and have no family members looking out for them. Why?
That the elites and middle classes don't seem to want to delve into these issues and would rather ignore these underclass communities isn't always a case of heartless snobbery or being exposed to "chav"-bashing on TV.
The fact is that the underclass in this country does not behave in a dignified way. They drive many of the stats around social disorder, crime, poor educational attainment, fatherless families, drug and alcohol addiction, etc. Their neighbourhoods and council blocks aren't pleasant or welcoming.
Addressing immigration and ethnically-driven criminal enterprise is important but equally important is the need to address the problem of the native underclass, which is almost unique in Europe in its size and the scale of its dysfunction.
The fact that many of these subcontinental and African languages have no word for "rape" tells you everything that you need to know about their lack of morality. These people must be removed from our countries, and those responsible for bringing them in en masse need to be severely punished.
Just found this Substack. Thank you for writing this article - finally a piece that doesn't concern itself with eulogising the Muslim 'contribution' or taking pains to describe the well-meaning majority of 'moderate' Muslims - all a prime example of typically British mealy -mouthing, I'm afraid, and not remotely helpful at this late, late hour.
I personally don't buy the overwhelming innocence of this population, and your article addressed that in the kind of terms we need to make a benchmark from this point on.
It was a shame you had to denigrate Robinson though. Unnecessary. You may not like the man but he stood up in front of the Oxford Student union 10 years ago and gave a pretty good account of himself, considering who he is and where he comes from. I wish more people were as civic minded as him.
In about 2006 in my twenties I was in India for about 2 weeks dressed as modestly as possible in a sari or baggy Western mens' clothes. I was sexually assaulted about 5-10 times in front of my male friend who pretended I was his wife. It was so traumatic that I changed my ticket and returned to England. On the streets it was about 90% men and you can understand why. Every time the man acted like it was no big deal or even funny, and it was his right to grope me, like I was a dog he insisted on stroking. Even when my "husband" shouted at them they didn't really react. In 2006 there was not the Internet porn there is now, but I feel that Western programmes showing casual sex probably did the same job, and they seem to do the same to thir own women as they're not out in public. At the time at least, there was no discussion of the fact women are at extreme risk of sexual assault if they travel to these types of countries. They will warn you about pickpockets in the guides but not that you are likely to be repeatedly groped.
I'm sorry to hear of this experience, It stirred a memory of my only trip to India in the late 1980s. I was travelling with another male friend, and we were struck by the number of Indian men who wanted to engage in conversation about sex with Western women. So often we were asked about length of skirts, bikinis, and whether girls "did it". Some of the older guys wanted to talk about politics or history, but it was obvious - even then, when pornography was a rarity - that Westerners conjured up the idea of sexual availability.
Thank you Simon - how interesting to hear other people's experiences from India. My friend and I felt that they certainly had a lot of pent-up sexual urges.
I am sorry you had to endure that. It is one thing that worries me about the "freshies" from India at the moment. I live in a small city have seen gangs of young male "students" in local parks during the last summer congregating together, watching the teenage girls in the play area. The blase way in which gang rape is treated in Bollywood films makes me fear about Indian grooming gangs as well (the Huddersfield grooming gang photos featured a Sikh fellow).
Thank you, MA! I'm disappointed to hear that Bollywood treats gang rape in a blasé way, I always thought Bollywood films were rather conservative and avoided showing kissing etc so it comes as a surprise that they cover the topic of gang rape.
With Bollywood and rape, I am basing this largely on some articles from India and some other articles that I have read. To quote from one article:
"The picturisation of rape is questionable and downright abhorrent in a disturbingly large number of the 80s and 90s Bollywood films. These films had some disturbing and recurrent tropes.
There was longer than required time duration, lewd and insensitive dialogues.
Additionally, there was unnecessary stripping of women, the glorification of the rapist, and trivialisation of the victim suffering."
https://www.desiblitz.com/content/rape-culture-in-80s-and-90s-bollywood
If I can find the other articles that I read, then I will share them. Either way, from what I have read, there was a degree to which gang rape was vaguely romanticised or seen as just a part of life in Bollywood films.
Thank you MA for sharing such an eye-opening article. I would add that there seems to be a hell of a lot more rape on Western TV as well compared to TV 20 years ago.
A good piece. The point about the lack of words for 'rape' in various African languages is also useful in trying to stop both black African immigration and in ending foreign aid (Trump deserves a lot of praise for ending US foreign aid to the illegitimate government of South Africa, a hostile foreign kleptocracy that persecutes white people). Similarly, there is the question of whether foreign aid etc can be used as a weapon to try and force Pakistan to take back the diaspora. I know British foreign aid to Pakistan is £13 billion a year whilst the nominal GDP of Pakistan is £374 billion, so I am not sure if it would have an effect in of itself. But maybe there can be co-ordination between a future right wing government in the UK and a future MAGA government in the US (assuming Vance succeeds Trump and wins the election in 2028)? One can dream... One can dream...
Ben Habib has examined how Pakistan would be willing to take back criminals. The British government has never even asked.
If that is so, it is quite interesting. Would Pakistan be willing to take back whole communities though? I know a number of Pakistanis in the UK also have property back in their homeland, so maybe whole communities that were complicit could be repatriated? Do you have any links to this?
Nearly everyone gets naturalised as soon as they can so no, there is no way you can force British citizens to remigrate (or simply migrate, if British-born) to their country (or parents' country) of origin.
A scathing article but correct in its prognosis. Any optimistic future for Britain ends immediately when you consider the scale of demographic black holes like Birmingham, Bradford or Luton.
At best you ghettoise them completely. Its inhabitants subsiding purely on state largesse (like Detroit or Baltimore), but contained and heavily policed. At worst we continue as we are, completely ignoring that nothing productive will ever come out of this population except abject misery.
Even more depressing than the bestial gangs are the feeble reaction of most British to these outrages. I sent this article to several male contemporaries (affluent ‘conservative’ gen x) and was staggered by too many of the responses…..the ‘don’t look back in anger’ type of crap! If you are not angry, furious, you are complicit. The British need to understand this.
But the Thatcher government does have a lot to answer for as in 1985 Ray Honeyford a Bradford headmaster warned about classrooms becoming unmanageable when they were majority Muslim. And in 1989 when Salman Rushdies Satanic Verses drew down a fatwa from Ayatollah Khomeini and subsequent protests from Bradford muslims the Tories were spooked and the suspicions must be that they avoided investigating criminality of all types committed by Muslims.
While the McPherson report made any 'institutional racism' accusations accepted by the population .
...And living in London in majority Muslim areas, the women in my block would frequently look at me in absolute disgust when I said hello, again I would necessarily be dressed modestly for a cold climate and usually going to work in an office.
Something the last decade has taught me is that there's an acceptable racism from non-white women towards white women that appears to stem from two main frustrations: anger at white women dating non white men, or frustration over a perceived lack of attraction from white men.
They weren't concerned with how you were dressed... they were looking at you like that because you exist, in their space.
White women are reproductive shape-shifters. They can produce babies that look like any ethnicity, so other women have to up their partner vigilance in response to the biothreat
The sexual interest of Muslim in white women is well attested to across many centuries of conflict. You blow them out of the water sexually in competition for their men.
I think this is best thing I've read on this app. Bravo Mr Reynolds Skelton and PJ.
Wow. What a piece.
This is first class. I just think we should burn them alive. Napalm Deporting them in clemency
When he UK goes off a cliff I hope there are hunting tours. I'd pay an insane amount to hunt hajis in the Anglo homeland.
There wont be anything left. You can pre-book 😄
I grew up in South Africa, I can attest that rape is extremely common amongst the native population and not considered wrong. It's the culture. From the male point of view.
There's currently a video circulating of a South Asian Muslim woman in hijab in the UK describing how men from her community sexually harass her when she goes to buy halal meat! Her modesty is not a deterrent, at all. This is a woman has average looks and appears about 40. The way she explains it sounds like an abnormal level of sexual harassment. When does it end? No, we will not accept that rape victims asked for it. No, we will not accept that the solution is to wear a face veil. There are plenty of girls on tiktok who say they experience MORE sexual harassment from Muslim men when they wearing niqab.
Regarding race element, they obviously hate us and I'm glad the mask is slipping. I saw a video of a Muslim preacher enthusiastically outlining a strategy to get us to become Muslim—essentially, suggesting invasion of a white couple's homes (he used the names John and Tracy so we know he's talking about white people), kicking the husband to the floor, and getting into bed with the wife. These are the same people who tut at the IDF dressing up in Palestinian lingerie.
A few weeks ago I interacted with a TikTok about goris, and I've seen a few now where a young Pakistani or Bengali man says they want a white GF, often trolling their own ethnic group to make them jealous (e.g., Bengali guy who wants a "clean" Bengali wife says he likes "goris" w/ a lying emoji hidden in the caption, triggering Bengali girls). And the girls comments are so aggressive. They're the sort of things you'd expect from a far-right bloke reacting to a white girl with a black man. One fave comment is "white girls don't wash their bums". Others: 💩 bum, shitty bum, enjoy ur beans & bacon, enjoy ur pork, unclean, dirty gori, end of ethnic beauty, brown boys belong to us, I'm better than that pasty ghost, when they turn wise they realise brown girls are the best of all🥰, who actually actually wants this? Etc.
Imagine a white boy positing that he wants a Pakistani gf and white girls leaving comments like "curry", "hairy" "honour killing". It would be seen as appalling behaviour, limited to the worst of our group and rare enough to be met with immediate criticism, probably from a lot of white girls!!
There's blatant racial humiliation at work here. White girls easy targets, dirty slags, but they'll still be taken from you and turned into Muslims.
It's like those tweets about European women converting to Islam at unprecedented rates that they keep posting or the ones about being replaced by a Muslim biomass because white men are so weak they can't get the job done. White women are whores and white men are weak, convert to Islam today to solve this.
Breathtaking article - well done. Grim stuff.
Modern English lacks a comprehensive vocabulary for classifying 80-IQ subcontinentals, lumping them in with their fellow countrymen under the category "people."
'Shouting impotently about ‘remigration’ does not cut it.'
I think we need to keep shouting. Remigration seems like the only thing that could really work in the long term. I understand that it's not going to happen in the short term, but it's eventually going to become accepted as a sensible option.
Massive gulf between "become accepted" and "happen".
There is no point pushing a soundbite rather than actually dealing with the issues outlined by the author in a practical way.
I think the writer's issue here is the verb in that sentence. These . . . foreigners must lay down their lives in their rush to flee.
When I taught in England back in the early 00s, some of the most testing kids came from poor white homes. The Muslim kids generally behaved better, at least in class, and had a greater interest in learning. For some reason, there is a deep-seated disinterest in intellectual pursuits with poor whites for e.g. views activities like reading as "gay," or suffer such profound illiteracy that they're humiliated into silence, and don't have the support to improve. A school can only do so much and British schools are increasingly lifeless, inflexible and authoritarian anyway.
It has never been clearer that the likes of Bojo disdain the poor, especially it seems the poor of their own ethnic group, including those who could really flourish with proper care and consideration. They are simply left to rot. In days of yore, they may have sought connection in church; now they are turning to drill and may yet 'revert.' The Scottish and Irish are similar, I've often pondered whether it was a broader class issue across Europe or just us Island folks. The dominance of English language complicates the detection of class nuances elsewhere and I envy them that privacy. We often become oddly defensive about obviously harmful aspects of our way of life, "that's our culture mate f off," as if drunken antics at 16 are something deeply English to be preserved. Bushra's tweet essentially echoes the sentiments once held by Victorian landed gentry towards impoverished prostitutes and chimney sweeps, and still held by our elite today. The introduction of ethnicity is what makes matters truly dangerous. I have not witnessed such concern from the middle class for less fortunate girls, and I strongly suspect ethnicity is the reason. Something dormant has been awakened out of necessity. if Ed Dutton's views are accurate, however, only the worst of the underclass, marked by their criminality and social services, are having enough kids. We're not talking about the likes of Tom Skinner or even Oliver Twist. It is probably fanciful to think we could repatriate every single British Muslim, and so we must set to work improving ourselves
Been looking for this type of comment. As an EU migrant to Britain (now naturalised) it is very evident there is a larger native underclass in this country than in other Western European nations and that family and community ties are weak to non-existent for this cohort.
Britons must ask themselves why there are so many vulnerable or susceptible girls for these gangs to target and ensnare in the first place. A large number live in residential homes and have no family members looking out for them. Why?
That the elites and middle classes don't seem to want to delve into these issues and would rather ignore these underclass communities isn't always a case of heartless snobbery or being exposed to "chav"-bashing on TV.
The fact is that the underclass in this country does not behave in a dignified way. They drive many of the stats around social disorder, crime, poor educational attainment, fatherless families, drug and alcohol addiction, etc. Their neighbourhoods and council blocks aren't pleasant or welcoming.
Addressing immigration and ethnically-driven criminal enterprise is important but equally important is the need to address the problem of the native underclass, which is almost unique in Europe in its size and the scale of its dysfunction.
The fact that many of these subcontinental and African languages have no word for "rape" tells you everything that you need to know about their lack of morality. These people must be removed from our countries, and those responsible for bringing them in en masse need to be severely punished.
Just found this Substack. Thank you for writing this article - finally a piece that doesn't concern itself with eulogising the Muslim 'contribution' or taking pains to describe the well-meaning majority of 'moderate' Muslims - all a prime example of typically British mealy -mouthing, I'm afraid, and not remotely helpful at this late, late hour.
I personally don't buy the overwhelming innocence of this population, and your article addressed that in the kind of terms we need to make a benchmark from this point on.
It was a shame you had to denigrate Robinson though. Unnecessary. You may not like the man but he stood up in front of the Oxford Student union 10 years ago and gave a pretty good account of himself, considering who he is and where he comes from. I wish more people were as civic minded as him.